tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post2347491242609825743..comments2024-03-27T21:23:40.339-04:00Comments on Chemjobber: Part 3 of Andre and CJ up later todayChemjobberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15932113680515602275noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-76403524048475374882013-06-21T08:56:29.321-04:002013-06-21T08:56:29.321-04:00Its because you think that what happened to the un...Its because you think that what happened to the unfortunate one's will not happen to you. You will work hard to make sure that it will not happen to you.<br /><br />That is what I thought.<br /><br />But then projects dont work, your advisor/boss does not help you, a difficult co-worker, etc., and it happens to you.NMHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-54928715221747378012013-06-20T23:20:25.676-04:002013-06-20T23:20:25.676-04:00Just want to say I fully agree with your post, esp...Just want to say I fully agree with your post, especially the last sentence. I got sold the same load of tripe that you did about how awesome life after your PhD was. To be honest, it was true at the time. But now we PhDs have to adjust to a new reality that isn't as friendly towards us.<br /><br />I can't understand how with this blog and so many other resources available online, students are still flocking to grad school hoping that the economy will improve by the time they graduate. I got news for you, even when times were good layoffs were a constant worry.Dr. Mindbendernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-39156201275170441062013-06-20T15:21:31.700-04:002013-06-20T15:21:31.700-04:00Note: DrM did respond to a response to this, and i...Note: DrM did respond to a response to this, and it changes the attitude of what he said: http://chemjobber.blogspot.com/2013/06/where-should-young-chemist-hope-to.html?showComment=1371740242706#c4884095479505416979<br /><br />This sounds mostly like an adaptation to a physics Ph.D. world - you'd better like what you're doing because if you want to keep doing it, there isn't going to be anything else. It does not cohere with the "we don't have enough scientists and engineers" theory, because in that world, having only a scientific life and none other would probably not be required, since the set of people that are willing to be monks and nuns for science is probably not very high. I think few people have that expectation entering chemistry, and if the above is accurate, that is the expectation they should have.Hapnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-24246503935367916742013-06-20T14:45:50.957-04:002013-06-20T14:45:50.957-04:00When I was getting my chemistry degree, I was told...When I was getting my chemistry degree, I was told by the professoriate that people with a science degree could use their "transferable skills" to work in any field they wanted. This is bullshit.<br />Now, a college degree is only a certificate of work eligibility for a narrow skill set. Employers no longer care if you learned how to think and solve problems. They want replaceable cogs with extremely specific skills to be up and running with no training and no expectation of long term employment or stability.<br />Now all the students who got degrees in chemistry thinking that they were getting a versatile education are told to stop bitching because our expectations are in line with what we were taught. I just want all the prospective college students to realize this before they buy into the latest STEM propaganda. Try our new BS, now with more STEMhttp://www.tulsaworld.com/article.aspx/For_most_Tulsa_STEM_jobs_associates_degree_sufficient/20130611_46_E1_CUTLIN361802noreply@blogger.com