tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post4587237881871256515..comments2024-03-27T21:23:40.339-04:00Comments on Chemjobber: Official ACS Career Fair numbersChemjobberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15932113680515602275noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-87959100201554199552012-08-24T14:10:37.377-04:002012-08-24T14:10:37.377-04:00By my computations, that is 7 and 41 applicants fo...By my computations, that is 7 and 41 applicants for each job. That is extreemly low for a job fair. Even in good times, 100 to 1 is not considered unusual and some that I have seen reported have been 500 to 1.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-11771755334044104962012-08-23T20:21:41.430-04:002012-08-23T20:21:41.430-04:00Anonymous, your argument is faulty. The reason is...Anonymous, your argument is faulty. The reason is simple - by itself number of applicants is meaningless, because there is no telling if any of them are qualified, and if you read the news you should know how few of them really are. Multiple news outlets, including ACS own C&EN reported on this very real problem and I will be happy to provide you with links if you need proof. In any case, the real indicator you need to look at is the rate at which positions are recycled, and that, 70+% so far this week, is a disturbing news for anyone who cares about the state of chemistry education in the US. Importantly, the recycle rate also allows for a direct estimate of how wide the skill gap really is. A simple calculation (1 - (148-107)/1499) shows it to be staggering 97.3%!Medellin Jacobsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-71141342796353929832012-08-23T18:12:49.496-04:002012-08-23T18:12:49.496-04:00You're not honestly taking to the fake Madelei...You're not honestly taking to the fake Madeleine Jacobs, are you?Bendernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-25750124928553235322012-08-23T15:02:35.609-04:002012-08-23T15:02:35.609-04:00@Madellin Jacobs: 70% of 148 is 104. That's 1...@Madellin Jacobs: 70% of 148 is 104. That's 104 jobs with 1500 applicants. Probably more applicants as those who did not get jobs at the fair probably went online. <br /><br />"Direct proof" of a shortage of scientists? <br /><br />The evidence presented by yourself suggests there are over 10 applicants for every single job. Thereby supporting the hypothesis that there is no shortage of scientists. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-77416929684744089552012-08-23T11:56:39.381-04:002012-08-23T11:56:39.381-04:00Actually, those are far better odds for victory.Actually, those are far better odds for victory.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-4738269280827668552012-08-23T11:47:39.028-04:002012-08-23T11:47:39.028-04:00No Rowdy, it's not that they won't do it, ...No Rowdy, it's not that they won't do it, they simply can't do it, the main reason being well-documented skill gap. That is why we need to improve our science education by providing more funding to graduate schools.<br /><br />AGW is real, but do you know that recent research shows that a significant contributor is hot pants - yes, that deplorable custom perpetuated by white androcracy? The group responsible for the skill gap in the first place?Medellin Jacobsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-46275458243560111812012-08-23T11:23:08.002-04:002012-08-23T11:23:08.002-04:00Indeed, Medellin. What we need to increase our co...Indeed, Medellin. What we need to increase our competitiveness is have an open immigration policy for those qualified foreigners who can fill the jobs Americans just won't do. <br /><br />By the way, have i mentioned that global warming is real? Rowdy Baumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-20050613869324288262012-08-23T11:15:02.325-04:002012-08-23T11:15:02.325-04:00By all accounts the ACS Career Fair was a resoundi...By all accounts the ACS Career Fair was a resounding success, however we should not ignore a disturbing fact. Within a week of this premiere employment event, number of new positions posted on our career website exceeded 70% of Fair's offerings. This is a direct proof of shortage of scientists and a crushing blow to the detractors of our long-standing support of increasing the number of chemistry graduates.Medellin Jacobsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-24366877945008909902012-08-23T10:56:16.668-04:002012-08-23T10:56:16.668-04:00It's starting to look like Thunderdome...two c...It's starting to look like Thunderdome...two chemists enter, one chemist leaves!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com