tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post555376986484584696..comments2024-03-27T21:23:40.339-04:00Comments on Chemjobber: Daily Pump Trap: 10/15/15 editionChemjobberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15932113680515602275noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-27982200533940068102015-10-21T03:31:33.886-04:002015-10-21T03:31:33.886-04:00I just did.I just did.Generic Chemisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17368825556427261716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-4117319649562652572015-10-19T10:11:48.493-04:002015-10-19T10:11:48.493-04:00CJ, check out this gem from Quora: https://www.quo...CJ, check out this gem from Quora: https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-get-a-job-in-an-industry-after-pursuing-a-PhD-in-chemistry<br /><br />I...don't...even...know...how to respond to that first response...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-46452060671774525612015-10-16T13:40:12.763-04:002015-10-16T13:40:12.763-04:00IIRC Denmark and Trost are never not the first, an...IIRC Denmark and Trost are never not the first, and Overman also goes alphabetical. Surely you can explain the old-school PI-as-first-author or whatever other shenanigans exist to a committee? I thought it was pretty well known back in the day (something to do with primitive indexing systems, or so they said).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-48499130516554031732015-10-16T13:15:58.515-04:002015-10-16T13:15:58.515-04:00The presentation and first-author requirements imp...The presentation and first-author requirements imply purple unicorn hunting - the other requirements at least seem to have direct implications for the job, but I don't know how well numbers of (first-)author papers and presentations (above one, maybe) correlate with the expected competence of the applicant, even if everyone followed the same system and author position could be well-correlated to achievement. <br /><br />It doesn't have to be an H1B hunt - given the author requirements, they must have an idea who they want and where they've gone (so they know that the publication and presentation measures mean what they want) and want to pretend otherwise. Hapnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-11837787202379444172015-10-16T12:53:01.370-04:002015-10-16T12:53:01.370-04:00Not to mention the advisors who use author positio...Not to mention the advisors who use author position (or, indeed, whether or not someone is listed as an author) as some sort of reward/punishment. TheSustainableChemisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09411680638779048153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-48603066177438092742015-10-15T22:23:47.068-04:002015-10-15T22:23:47.068-04:00obviously I meant criterion....obviously I meant criterion....biotechtoreadornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-13708004178625345342015-10-15T22:23:00.162-04:002015-10-15T22:23:00.162-04:00It does seem to be a stupid criteria, but as long ...It does seem to be a stupid criteria, but as long as the organization is footing the bill it can ask for whatever it wishes that doesn't discriminate against 'protected classes' (which it can wontonly discriminate against at the screening stage). Likely an indication of a foolish organization, though.biotechtoreadornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-4606587493054223592015-10-15T22:14:15.781-04:002015-10-15T22:14:15.781-04:00I had the same situation with my advisor. Several ...I had the same situation with my advisor. Several of my labmates appeared to be minor contributors on papers where they were really the first author, and the crystallographer got first-author billing on many papers he was only peripherally involved in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-1806597542327125612015-10-15T21:54:14.335-04:002015-10-15T21:54:14.335-04:00The relatively recent obsession with "first a...The relatively recent obsession with "first author papers" really pisses me off. My post-doc adviser insisted on alphabetical order.....which coincidentally put him up front.Generic Chemisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17368825556427261716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-1889176717521373162015-10-15T21:45:49.375-04:002015-10-15T21:45:49.375-04:00Nice idea, but tough to know immigration status of...Nice idea, but tough to know immigration status of person hired. Also tough to prove person x wasn't hired for some other reason. Lots of job candidates think they're good fits when they really aren't. <br /><br />Also tough to prove damages. Just because company x did not hire doesn't remove opportunity at company y. Biotechtoreadornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-27907056600349865792015-10-15T18:14:55.517-04:002015-10-15T18:14:55.517-04:00I'm tempted to mess with them by submitting a ...I'm tempted to mess with them by submitting a fake resume with all of the highly specific stuff they ask for.KTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-61014037882212575792015-10-15T15:54:35.873-04:002015-10-15T15:54:35.873-04:00What I would like to see is qualified US Citizens ...What I would like to see is qualified US Citizens start filling out complaints against companies once those companies hire H1Bs and get the investigations rolling.Harry Elstonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16091371872387480309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-91577175473940288112015-10-15T13:30:12.664-04:002015-10-15T13:30:12.664-04:00"A couple of things: I really wish that there..."A couple of things: I really wish that there was a code word that employers could put in the ad so that it would mark these ads as "okay to ignore this." Maybe a set of bulleted points where the first letters would spell "FAKE AD.""<br /><br />How about "File under: Hidden Yeti market"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com