tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post5608652256365757671..comments2024-03-27T21:23:40.339-04:00Comments on Chemjobber: Cow-free dairy? Chemjobberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15932113680515602275noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-81556665525979919682019-08-09T13:31:06.785-04:002019-08-09T13:31:06.785-04:00If that was the position a vegan took, I would be ...If that was the position a vegan took, I would be curious to know where the threshold for "consciousness" is drawn, and how "consciousness" is determined by the vegan. Say there is some objective test that can be performed to determine an organism is conscious enough to not be used for food, who is on the flipside of that logic? Is it morally acceptable to exploit any organism with low or zero consciousness by this scale, or just those determined by some arbitrary moral code? Can we begin eating comatose humans, or severely mentally impaired animals? Could we genetically engineer sheep to lack the neurons beyond those necessary for basic motor functions, so that vegans can finally enjoy some rare lamb medallions?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-45081696922278522762019-08-07T13:23:16.317-04:002019-08-07T13:23:16.317-04:00CJ, vegan cheeses, if done right, taste very good ...CJ, vegan cheeses, if done right, taste very good and are of better quality, texture, and mouthfeel than that of some low- to medium-cost dairy-based cheeses and cheesefoods. However, the best, upper echelon vegan cheese does not come anywhere close to the best dairy-based cheeses, however, the best dairy cheeses can easily run well beyond $20 per pound whereas the best vegan cheeses are usually at or below the $20 per pound mark.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-16485183659000586952019-08-06T22:06:32.475-04:002019-08-06T22:06:32.475-04:00I really wish the mainstream media would stop call...I really wish the mainstream media would stop calling heme a protein when discussing the new meatless alternatives.Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17714010588085527638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-1414007419870625382019-08-05T16:36:55.867-04:002019-08-05T16:36:55.867-04:00I"m all for it if it tastes just a good as th...I"m all for it if it tastes just a good as the real thing. I already drink stuff that is produced from fermenting with microbes, so I'm not picky. ReverendJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01645641553108445960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-10825840350209710962019-08-05T14:26:47.051-04:002019-08-05T14:26:47.051-04:00I think a vegan (Ive dabbled in it) may reply that...I think a vegan (Ive dabbled in it) may reply that the more consciousness the animal has, the more it could maybe sense that it is exploited. I would imagine cows might have a little consciousness (at a very low level), but microbes dont, although there may come a day when genetically engineered microbes might get a hive mind, and attack and eat humans, I suppose. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-18755856184136232672019-08-05T12:49:39.680-04:002019-08-05T12:49:39.680-04:00"Microbes, such as yeast, are given the genet..."Microbes, such as yeast, are given the genetic instructions to produce the dairy proteins."<br /><br />One wonders how the anti-GMO crowd might respond to that.<br /><br />Frankenfood anyone?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-84710542373448509292019-08-05T12:32:33.518-04:002019-08-05T12:32:33.518-04:00Vegans wont eat cheese because it's produced b...Vegans wont eat cheese because it's produced by exploiting dairy cows, just like they wont touch honey because it is the product of bee exploitation, and yet they have no qualms about exploiting a colony of microorganisms to finally eat something tasting like real cheese? Who is protecting the rights of these microbes?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com