tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post6046245676808092008..comments2024-03-29T09:05:29.819-04:00Comments on Chemjobber: Survey of Earned Doctorates, 2019 edition Chemjobberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15932113680515602275noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-43246211254879645902020-12-12T15:23:59.719-05:002020-12-12T15:23:59.719-05:00Are you in the US? I have a December birthday and...Are you in the US? I have a December birthday and was always the youngest in my class, went to grad school in the 90's when 4 and 4 1/2 year PhD's were more common, and defended two days after my 26th birthday. Someone in the class before me finished in 3 1/2 years and defended a few days before his 25th birthday, but that was really unusual even then. Old Biddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12982631719343776864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-40896483037837587212020-12-09T13:07:22.883-05:002020-12-09T13:07:22.883-05:00It looks as if the job market for chemists is expe...It looks as if the job market for chemists is experiencing a strong bull run.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-22141949753542446682020-12-08T13:02:43.524-05:002020-12-08T13:02:43.524-05:00Meant to say that Im thinking average life time ea...Meant to say that Im thinking average life time earnings (say, from graduate up to 65 yo) per year for a PhD are about 60 K USD averaged over all PhD's, with all the problems people have keeping jobs.<br /><br />For this reason, I think you probably better off with a BS and being a HS chem teacher, in terms of money.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05647888828182905752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-60402289173187883872020-12-08T12:50:14.715-05:002020-12-08T12:50:14.715-05:00These are numbers for individuals that get a job w...These are numbers for individuals that get a job with a PhD, and I wonder how high that fraction is compared to the total graduate PhD's. For example, what fraction of total PhD's sat employed as post-docs for many many years? What fraction left science all together? <br /><br />I think the most relevant number would be get the salary (if he/she has one) of all Chem Ph's, and divide by the total number of PhD's.<br /><br />Im guessing that number is around 60K USD a year....Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05647888828182905752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-6085871560146879672020-12-08T10:29:32.058-05:002020-12-08T10:29:32.058-05:00I too am struggling to figure out how someone woul...I too am struggling to figure out how someone would 'typically' receive a PhD at 24. Most people in North America don't <i>start</i> graduate school until they're 22.Joe Q.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-46425137950966450632020-12-07T12:18:53.454-05:002020-12-07T12:18:53.454-05:00Not sure about people's ages, but my departmen...Not sure about people's ages, but my department likes to brag we have a 4.9 yrs avg graduation time. personally I saw 2 of my colleagues got out at 6.5 yrs, 2 got out at 5 yrs, where one got a postdoc position that needs to leave, and another spent a chunk of high school and college summers with my boss. people in my year are slowly getting flushed out around 5-5.5 years along with a few older folks clocking at 6.5 years defending this month, and I'm leaving this miserable hole in just a month. I'd say the average for us would be 5.5ish years. Anyways, anon's argument is probably harsher - youd think putting life on hold til 25 is bad, but on avg people do it til 27-29.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-83509734605091880482020-12-07T10:57:39.767-05:002020-12-07T10:57:39.767-05:00I would have said the same thing as Adamantane. In...I would have said the same thing as Adamantane. In the US, people tend to graduate at 21/22. If they go straight into a PhD program, even a 'short' 5-year PhD would have them graduating at 26/27.<br /><br />I graduated college at 22 and went straight into a PhD program. I finished my PhD in 5.5 years (at 27 years of age).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-4565499367791236042020-12-07T10:50:17.713-05:002020-12-07T10:50:17.713-05:00Also, assuming that data is accurate, it is crazy ...Also, assuming that data is accurate, it is crazy to see that the starting salaries for fresh PhD's is higher than what I make in industry now, wow...Adamantanenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-29246693060252772232020-12-07T10:48:17.143-05:002020-12-07T10:48:17.143-05:00Really? Finishing a PhD by age 24-25 is unusually ...Really? Finishing a PhD by age 24-25 is unusually quick by US standards, assuming you enter graduate school at age 21-22. International students will be older still, since they typically come in with a master's. Adamantanenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-32939810073837736482020-12-07T08:58:35.147-05:002020-12-07T08:58:35.147-05:00The average age is what stands out to me. Typical ...The average age is what stands out to me. Typical age for graduating with a Ph.D. at the Tier 1 University I attended was 24-25 years old. And that was only 16 years ago. I cannot imagine putting my life on hold for that long looking back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com