tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post8183031993793111132..comments2024-03-27T21:23:40.339-04:00Comments on Chemjobber: Things are hard for tech firm recruiting Chemjobberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15932113680515602275noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-53637227320829493872022-02-23T11:49:32.755-05:002022-02-23T11:49:32.755-05:00In my experience on the biology side, the few ex-b...In my experience on the biology side, the few ex-biologist recruiters I've talked to have been horrible (often in the "I say you're a square peg, so even if you think you're round, I'm going to try to hammer you into this square hole" kind of way).<br /><br />The best recruiters I've talked to are willing to put effort into presenting a few options, and then asking what makes one look better than the others, iterating that across the process. By iterating, I mean they take maybe three candidate's resume summaries to the hiring manager, and actually listen to why some are better than others--and then they formulate questions about that, which they put to people in their network/database. If that answer sounds good to the recruiter, they start talking about the position description, and ask the candidate what makes them a good fit. Those answers then accompany the candidate's resume on the trip to the hiring manager.<br /><br />Obviously, this is a lot of work, and demands a recruiter who 1) is willing to listen and 2) has a good attention span. That rules out many of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-60619031741718738432022-02-22T14:52:18.550-05:002022-02-22T14:52:18.550-05:00Are software recruiters more apt to be ex-programm...Are software recruiters more apt to be ex-programmers who changed careers? The only chemical industry recruiters who are any good are ex-chemists who understand the field and know what the words in the job description mean.KTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-21817869647424199502022-02-22T12:10:11.106-05:002022-02-22T12:10:11.106-05:00Software recruiters are often better at their jobs...Software recruiters are often better at their jobs though. It's a lot harder to hire a good SWE than a good organic chemist say. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-83753131290707354952022-02-22T04:05:43.471-05:002022-02-22T04:05:43.471-05:00I too have to say that most recruiters I spoke to ...I too have to say that most recruiters I spoke to in the past do not understand the difference between cement plant and cemetery, steroids and asteroids. They have a position to fill, and with an eye on the reward they just contact the people at random. Also, in many case there is a reason why the position is not filled - either it is a very crappy kind of job (QC or CRO job) or the company hiring for the position has a very unreasonable set of expectations and cannot put those requirements into a coherent form. milkshakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08188961610554710616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-42159788271152653542022-02-21T11:31:56.382-05:002022-02-21T11:31:56.382-05:00The best way for a recruiter to get my attention i...The best way for a recruiter to get my attention is to convince me that they understand my industry and aren't a time-waster. Even if I'm not currently in the market, I respond to recruiter emails with well-fitting positions because I see so few of them. 99% of the time, it's some crappy temporary QC technician position that would set my career backward 20 years, and I'm picturing a complete idiot on the other end who doesn't understand that there's more than one kind of chemist.KTnoreply@blogger.com