tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post4054580751185035159..comments2024-03-27T21:23:40.339-04:00Comments on Chemjobber: The 2021 Faculty Jobs List: 309 research/teaching positions and 58 teaching faculty positionsChemjobberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15932113680515602275noreply@blogger.comBlogger179125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-70079948652881421302021-04-19T23:59:12.003-04:002021-04-19T23:59:12.003-04:00This thread will close tomorrow at noon Eastern.This thread will close tomorrow at noon Eastern.Chemjobberhttp://chemjobber.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-13078832573949186662021-04-19T23:53:08.863-04:002021-04-19T23:53:08.863-04:00I guess that this is the situation where most peop...I guess that this is the situation where most people choose to be silent out of the fear that their comments might be interpreted as politically incorrect. I would suggest to accept it as what it is and move on: life is never fair.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-75615006966758795462021-04-19T14:12:51.739-04:002021-04-19T14:12:51.739-04:0012:25 here. I can give you my thoughts based on my...12:25 here. I can give you my thoughts based on my experiences as both an applicant and member of the hiring committee. <br />1) I don't know if there's a "typical" expectation for this situation, but I would find it useful to have a letter from at least one current departmental colleague if I were on the hiring committee. That letter should provide not only a recommendation, but should also confirm the reasons for leaving your current position. When I was in the same situation, I was able to get all three of my letters from departmental colleagues. You could argue that I should have had an external review letter, but I wanted to dispel any notions that I might be a trouble-maker or toxic personality in the department. When I asked for letters, I gave each person a copy of my CV and cover letter to help them stay "on message".<br />2) I don't think it's inappropriate to ask that the seminar only be advertised internally. We have had applicants coming from industry who have made that request because the situation is even more sensitive for them. It wasn't a big deal to restrict the notices to internal emails and posters around the department. If I recall, the webpage simply stated "To be announced" or "Faculty candidate seminar".<br />3) I don't have any firsthand experience with "cold-calling" chairs. It seems like that would be a lot of work and the most likely response might just be "please check our HR board for updates". At my school, I don't think our HR or diversity offices would approve of any unsanctioned discussions between potential candidates and departmental personnel. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-53147074487796264212021-04-19T13:20:56.364-04:002021-04-19T13:20:56.364-04:00I am 7.47 PM/12.39 AM. Thanks a lot, 12.25 PM, for...I am 7.47 PM/12.39 AM. Thanks a lot, 12.25 PM, for your advice! What you said looks very reasonable to me. And yes, I am on a 9 month contract, so your analysis is correct. I have some questions for you:<br /><br />1) Is it a good idea to apply for other tenure-track jobs with no recommendation letters from my current institution or is it typically expected to have at least one?<br />2) In case I got shortlisted, sometimes faculty candidates' names are made public in seminar ads. Would you suggest to contact the institutions to ask for hiding my name?<br />3) Is it better to apply only for advertised positions at the beginning of a cycle or to contact the chairs in advance to talk about possible openings for somebody "less junior" as me?<br />Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-58507786195143465732021-04-19T12:44:21.495-04:002021-04-19T12:44:21.495-04:00Has anyone else noticed changes to the priority da...Has anyone else noticed changes to the priority dates listed for positions that you're following? I was looking at one job that originally had a June 1 date, but now it says May 1. Is there a reason why they may have shortened up the window? Are they getting too many applications, or have they already chosen most of their finalists and want to get started on interviews? It kind of sucks that they'd shave a month off of the application window.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-15190265322264817682021-04-19T12:25:26.169-04:002021-04-19T12:25:26.169-04:00One of the best pieces of advice that I've eve...One of the best pieces of advice that I've ever been given is that the best time to look for a new job is while you are still employed. I disagree with the commenter at 9:46, simply because the situation they describe seems like a fantasy to me. If you work in a department that showers you with support and resources and is doing everything possible to help you achieve tenure, then by all means stay and repay loyalty with loyalty. But if, like many of us, you have genuine concerns about your department's commitment to you, there should be nothing keeping you from trying to improve your situation.<br /><br />The idea that you should be ashamed to "spend their money on preliminary results that buys you tenure somewhere else" is laughable. If you don't meet the department's criteria for tenure, they won't think twice about kicking you to the curb, regardless of how much money they gave you. Why should you feel any more duty-bound to them if they don't meet your expectations as colleagues? I don't consider myself a "dumb@%$! peer" for "feeding you this &#!+ advice". It's that kind of perverse indoctrination that makes it possible for departments to bully and intimidate junior faculty and perpetuate toxic department cultures.<br /><br />BTW, my advice is to begin the search before applying for tenure for two reasons. First, there will be more options open to you as an assistant professor. A lot of schools don't have the ability to convert an assistant professorship to an associate or full professorship at the time of hire, so there's a good chance you'd be hired on a probationary basis anyway. Second, a lot of schools have granted automatic extensions because of the pandemic, which could give you one extra year to look for that perfect job.<br /><br />Don't let the comments from 9:46 discourage you. You will actually find your application package MUCH easier to prepare because your research plans are now concrete and your teaching philosophy is based on experience rather than a bunch of pedagogical buzz words. Heck, throw in some examples of good teaching evaluations to strengthen your case and set you apart from some of the ABDs or postdocs. Don't lose sleep over taking time off work to interview and prepare your application, either. My guess is that you're on a 9 month contract, so unless you take all summer off, your institution is still getting a ton of free labor out of you.<br /><br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-88623313732788275032021-04-18T17:59:20.215-04:002021-04-18T17:59:20.215-04:00I saw some new hire announcements in my sub-field,...I saw some new hire announcements in my sub-field, but I did not know of those positions's opening for this job market cycle. They were not on Chemjobber's job list, and I couldn't find them from my own search effort. They were not shown in the previous job market either, so I don't think that they are just delayed announcements. Is it possible that schools hire faculties without public announcements? Or how do you know the information?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-8850266502286869972021-04-18T00:39:50.849-04:002021-04-18T00:39:50.849-04:00@9.46 PM. I am 7.47 PM. Thank you for your answer,...@9.46 PM. I am 7.47 PM. Thank you for your answer, you have raised very good points. I want to clarify that my comment is not just a troll. I attach this link that may clarify why I got to the point of asking what I asked (after hearing of other assistant professors doing this):<br /><br />https://community.chronicle.com/news/416-the-professor-is-in-how-to-hop-from-one-tenure-track-job-to-another<br /><br />https://www.insidehighered.com/advice/2018/11/07/three-mistakes-tenure-track-faculty-make-when-being-recruited-new-jobs-opinion<br /><br />I would like to hear some advice from people actually doing this, because I am as confused as the person who wrote at 9.46...but this is become a very popular strategy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-86879339272525038742021-04-17T21:46:39.562-04:002021-04-17T21:46:39.562-04:00@747 I, too, am an assistant professor at an R1 u...@747 I, too, am an assistant professor at an R1 university for some 3 years. I have never heard of anyone doing this and think it is an awful idea. I have had a lot of support from my peers getting up-and-running, with mentoring help, with COVID tenure extensions, and with collaborations. I am busy as hell getting all the grants and papers I need to get out this year for tenure. I cannot imagine spending my time putting an application package back together and then somehow managing to skip out of teaching for interviews, while hoping no one finds out. Who're are you having write your rec letters? What do you expect them to say? <br /><br />I seriously hope this comment is just a troll. What can you possibly hope to get out of this ploy except a lot of pissed off people? Either you're rocking it with grants/pubs and you don't need help. Or you're not rocking it and your department will give you help regardless of other offers. Or you can force their hand with this and make them either decide to toss you an extra 100k that you don't need to keep you (and make enemies, both at home and the place you're leading on) or decide you're a failure and not give you more grad students so you don't get tenure in three years? They dropped some fraction of a million bucks on you and your idea is to spend their money on preliminary results that buys you tenure somewhere else? You need to seriously reconsider your priorities as an assistant prof and stop listening to whatever dumb@%$! peer of ours is feeding you this &#!+ advice. <br /><br />@1001 I am working through some cognitive dissonance right now (apologies to 747 for unloading) as I do think that around tenure (either before or after) is a good time to do some shopping around. Presumably, you're going to GET tenure because of the grants you're bringing in and hence be attractive to other institutions. Apparently, one of the reasons we're underpaid compared to industry is our lack of willingness to move and negotiate better offers, so more of this would have the effect of driving professor salaries up. Some places salaries are completely independent of departments, so having your head get you a raise has no impact on them. And if some unrestricted money flowed your way to help get other project areas off the ground, that would be great. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-54455479835883603532021-04-17T10:01:14.382-04:002021-04-17T10:01:14.382-04:00this is an interesting question. i myself have a f...this is an interesting question. i myself have a follow up - is it a better time to look right before you go up for tenure or right after you get tenure? asking for a friend...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-62549227018154859612021-04-16T19:47:21.959-04:002021-04-16T19:47:21.959-04:00I have been an assistant professor in an R1 univer...I have been an assistant professor in an R1 university for 3 years. Some of my colleagues with the same years spent as assistant professors (in other universities) have recently told me they will go back to the job market to conclude the tenure-track elsewhere or for tenured positions. They say it is good practice to increase the chances of getting a better position or negotiate an increase in their funding at the current universities. How does the process work for these type of positions? I am now considering to do the same, but I am afraid that my current colleagues may "discover" this strategy and become resentful. Thank you for sharing any advice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-80471721251905492282021-04-16T18:04:34.623-04:002021-04-16T18:04:34.623-04:00This thread has reached the end of its productive ...This thread has reached the end of its productive life. - CJchemjobberhttp://chemjobber.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-79263522756698558612021-04-16T18:02:02.526-04:002021-04-16T18:02:02.526-04:00@4:40 on twitter it just means that the account ha...@4:40 on twitter it just means that the account has been verified, through means, that the account belongs to the person / organization it claims to be. <br /><br />@2:26 assumes, wrongly, that @1:24 is the person who got the position, and perhaps got resentful, by the look of it (but I am assuming: see what I did here?), because someone checks regularly the ChemBumperCars account.<br /><br />In fact, I am 11:46 and 2:26 and did not apply to USM-SPSE (and logically so did not get the position). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-79736605736590006952021-04-16T16:40:16.675-04:002021-04-16T16:40:16.675-04:00What does a blue check mark have to do with anythi...What does a blue check mark have to do with anything? Genuinely confused as to what that means.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-70346333426626729772021-04-16T15:14:27.087-04:002021-04-16T15:14:27.087-04:00Wow, you have a blue check mark, cool, got it. Wow, you have a blue check mark, cool, got it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-74728526475187638362021-04-16T14:26:15.983-04:002021-04-16T14:26:15.983-04:00https://twitter.com/clemo_11/status/13766976901641...https://twitter.com/clemo_11/status/1376697690164187145<br />https://twitter.com/USM_Polymers/status/1376730984951865346<br />also, @ChembumpercarsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-27757386594215242562021-04-16T13:24:25.452-04:002021-04-16T13:24:25.452-04:00Where was it announced? Where was it announced? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-62552523703634753172021-04-16T11:46:53.151-04:002021-04-16T11:46:53.151-04:00Yes, this position has been filled and announced 2...Yes, this position has been filled and announced 2-3 weeks ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-43180248764237528902021-04-16T10:26:06.863-04:002021-04-16T10:26:06.863-04:00Rejection letter received from University of South...Rejection letter received from University of Southern Mississippi School of polymer science and engineering.Anonymous Userhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08527358634118541535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-7234386234631445962021-04-16T10:24:15.392-04:002021-04-16T10:24:15.392-04:00X3X3Anonymous Userhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08527358634118541535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-47150548896854362142021-04-15T22:08:54.590-04:002021-04-15T22:08:54.590-04:00x2x2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-51794806536609840822021-04-15T18:37:20.881-04:002021-04-15T18:37:20.881-04:00Rejection letters from UTArlingtonRejection letters from UTArlingtonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-53461777016464784442021-04-14T16:44:58.897-04:002021-04-14T16:44:58.897-04:00Sometimes, I am really confused with the definitio...Sometimes, I am really confused with the definition of R1, R2. Some R2 is a really good/great research institution, and some R1 is never heard of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-44941421214200337642021-04-14T16:30:39.189-04:002021-04-14T16:30:39.189-04:00My experience is that you basically can do nothing...My experience is that you basically can do nothing about it. You can ask search committee chair, department chair, secretary. However, you would get no response or template response. Put your feet in their position: the department is only interested in recruiting people that they consider a match. The best you can do is to write an impressive application package. After that, you are basically waiting for a response or no response at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-6756699896983211052021-04-14T09:41:10.066-04:002021-04-14T09:41:10.066-04:00Absolutely. The timeline is often longer and the r...Absolutely. The timeline is often longer and the research is less consistent (usually big amounts in the summer, less while teaching). The amount of research varies at PUIs but there's definitely plenty that have professors who do serious research. It's not on the scale of an R1 but it can absolutely be comparable quality! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com