tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post4526636123108784819..comments2024-03-27T21:23:40.339-04:00Comments on Chemjobber: Job outlook for chemists: grim?Chemjobberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15932113680515602275noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-18607698915486122892009-11-05T18:13:13.706-05:002009-11-05T18:13:13.706-05:00"There was a joke in that drivel?"
I th..."There was a joke in that drivel?"<br /><br />I thought it was apropos.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-43919468487523576902009-11-04T19:02:48.493-05:002009-11-04T19:02:48.493-05:00There was a joke in that drivel? And it was suppo...There was a joke in that drivel? And it was suppose to highlight his offensive optimism?????<br /><br />You only succeeded in looking like a shockingly stupid, insensitive drama queen.<br /><br />Take your need for attention and go work it out on a therapist's couch.Au into Pbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-42241972815223581372009-11-03T18:32:10.389-05:002009-11-03T18:32:10.389-05:00Pollyannaism is a very good word for such excessiv...Pollyannaism is a very good word for such excessive optimism. I just showed some of my fellow grad students the >55K job losses in pharma that will begin to occur in a few months (Pfizer/Wyeth, Merck/Shering Plough, Eli Lilly, AstraZeneca and J&J to name a few) pollyannaism is all I got from them. Even despite the growth in jobs overseas, that didn't stop the speed of the roto-vaps and tube collecting. I think you're right, my offensive jokes will not shock the reality into many grad students. I think the job market will do that for them. At that moment, my offensive comment will rather innocuous in comparison to the giant joke that is graduate school.AlchemXnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-22429586369178600992009-11-03T07:10:02.430-05:002009-11-03T07:10:02.430-05:00Sorry, the offensiveness of that comment was to hi...<i>Sorry, the offensiveness of that comment was to highlight the offensiveness of chemjobber's positive outlook at the end of 2010.</i><br /><br />Sorry, AlchemX, you can't get away with this - two wrongs don't make a right. Your metaphor was in poor taste, and I think you know it. <br /><br />That being said, I find your (civil) comments to be a useful counterweight to my relative optimism and I'm not offended at all that you find my prediction 'stupid.' Your prediction is more substantive than mine. <br /><br />For what it's worth, I think it's hilarious that my mild comment that jobs may pick up in late 2010 is viewed as outrageous Pollyannaism.Chemjobberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15932113680515602275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-74439249518086351312009-11-03T04:32:45.166-05:002009-11-03T04:32:45.166-05:00Sorry, the offensiveness of that comment was to hi...Sorry, the offensiveness of that comment was to highlight the offensiveness of chemjobber's positive outlook at the end of 2010. It's very stupid to think even an increase in jobs at that point really means much after so many jobs have been lost. Sometimes a shocking metaphor is what is needed, sorry to offend all those who prefer to be civil. I thank Karen for keeping it civil for those who can't comprehend jokes on the internet. I'm not sorry for the comment either,lol.AlchemXnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-45848546480751443352009-11-02T22:55:10.267-05:002009-11-02T22:55:10.267-05:00And she said less offensively.And she said less offensively.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-16712021438747048062009-10-30T15:45:43.604-04:002009-10-30T15:45:43.604-04:00I think Karen has said this far better than I have...I think Karen has said this far better than I have.AlchemXnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-64727048867544996822009-10-30T14:58:37.241-04:002009-10-30T14:58:37.241-04:00I lean towards Karen's pessimism although trus...I lean towards Karen's pessimism although trust will turn around. <br /><br />Problem with people extending Masters or Post-docs is that when/if jobs start to appear there will still be competition with many who took similar "holding" pattern. If one can be found I think "any" industrial position or internship even if overqualified would provide more valuable experience. If nothing else apply to Wall Street even if not an Ivy Leaguer.<br /><br />CMC guyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-28876747942429755102009-10-30T12:44:12.015-04:002009-10-30T12:44:12.015-04:00Once pharma has gotten used to lower levels of che...Once pharma has gotten used to lower levels of chemists, are they ever going to come back to their former levels? I think a lot of big pharma companies have gotten rid of entire departments, and once the downturn is over, they may not open them again. They're getting more accustomed to outsourcing their research (both overseas and at biotechs and contract manufacturing) and not having to deal in house R&D.<br /><br />That's why I gave up and got out of science, rather than trying to hold on until the downturn is over. I'm not convinced it's ever coming back, at least not at the old levels.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11393219314496954561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-42090776858438692742009-10-30T03:17:03.368-04:002009-10-30T03:17:03.368-04:002010 is very optimistic. I'd say that 2012 is ...2010 is very optimistic. I'd say that 2012 is the bottom of the market for chemists after the large bulk of patents expire and generics begin their foothold. The market after then could only get better, like a fat, ugly woman could only look better on a sunny day in December. lol.AlchemXnoreply@blogger.com