tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post4557252472415255717..comments2024-03-27T21:23:40.339-04:00Comments on Chemjobber: C&EN on the hot pharma/biotech marketChemjobberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15932113680515602275noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-13748139931044620892021-09-14T12:06:28.193-04:002021-09-14T12:06:28.193-04:00I've also heard from time to time only do a po...I've also heard from time to time only do a postdoc if academia is what you're after; for industry an industry postdoc is already borderline questionable since thats a low-paying internship, doing an academia postdoc to get industry jobs is straight out a waste of time.<br /><br />I guess another point from this article is why people don't pursue academia jobs, thus less people seek postdoc opportunities? Between the decreasing number of available faculty positions, increasing competitiveness of funding, longer duration of postdocs (chem is approaching 4 and bio is at 6 years now?) and there are simply "better" options out there like pharma jobs, the answer is pretty clear to me.gaoshinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-36071324911576474232021-09-14T04:53:26.446-04:002021-09-14T04:53:26.446-04:00Agree with Jordan. One of the most valuable pieces...Agree with Jordan. One of the most valuable pieces of advice I got when finishing my PhD in the early 2000s was from a pharma lab head with whom I discussed the possibility to do a postdoc with them. His response was "Why aim for a postdoc if you already know you want to work in the industry? We don't care about a postdoc if you can show industry experience instead, even if it's from a smaller outfit/startup/CRO". Obviously, a postdoc in a high-profile lab certainly won't be frowned upon by most employers but even a just a few years of real-world experience will probably trump most postdoc qualifications.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-1787820773000341652021-09-13T16:03:26.090-04:002021-09-13T16:03:26.090-04:00"Hall adds that it has become increasingly di..."Hall adds that it has become increasingly difficult to fill postdoc spots in his lab at NCATS. “I have chatted with a few people who applied for postdocs who basically said, ‘I’m not doing a postdoc. I have a job with pharma.’ ”<br /><br />Welcome to life in the big city. Jameshttp://www.masterorganicchemistry.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-40653641326555659412021-09-13T12:01:28.238-04:002021-09-13T12:01:28.238-04:00I always had the impression that post-docs for ind...I always had the impression that post-docs for industry-bound scientists were a novelty of the 1990s that somehow stuck -- and that has ebbed and flowed with the economy (get a job straight from PhD if you can, otherwise you can do a post-doc as a "holding pattern") -- but with the preference always being to go straight to industry.<br /><br />I'm not sure of the logic of "voluntarily" doing a post-doc if industry jobs are available without one.<br />Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09089247980062665630noreply@blogger.com