tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post8087819800692198249..comments2024-03-29T09:05:29.819-04:00Comments on Chemjobber: VAPs? A professor commentsChemjobberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15932113680515602275noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-173622823494234802013-09-01T21:56:58.722-04:002013-09-01T21:56:58.722-04:00After a few years of watching some graduates jump ...After a few years of watching some graduates jump from one VAP to the next, I agree, they are a dead end. If I got stuck as a VAP, I would just start training for another type of profession on the side. Have people gotten to the tenured world from one? Yes, but it involved some serious moves and personal sacrifices.<br /><br />Higher education is a ponzi scheme, but education is a religion now, so no one is allowed to question any of its practices, costs or outcomes. They are all sacred and work in mysterious ways...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-1240473979419973162013-08-28T15:42:24.747-04:002013-08-28T15:42:24.747-04:00Matt Hartings e-mails to comment:
"...that ...Matt Hartings e-mails to comment: <br /><br />"...that while academic hiring seems to be OK (from a national uni and dept level), we've got a SERIOUS glut on the labor side. Let's say it's a good year and we've got 100-150 openings ... how does that compare with the number of postdocs JUST at Harvard (or MIT/Caltech/Stanford/etc). That's not a healthy market."Chemjobberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15932113680515602275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-47048705781325170672013-08-27T20:44:07.051-04:002013-08-27T20:44:07.051-04:00I was in fact referring to the job market as a who...I was in fact referring to the job market as a whole as Chemjobber suggests. The academic market isn't terrific, but it does appear to be "healthier" than pharma and other traditional employers of chemists. I believe the the availability of TT positions has always been limited relative to demand. There always seem to be more people interested in that career path than there are available positions (get involved in a TT search and you will see hundred of apps that don't warrant serious discussion). From that perspective, things probably aren't that much different, although there do seem to be more adjuncts/VAPs/etc. hired to do jobs that could go to TT. Those losses may be offset by increases in departments who have started/expanded graduate programs.Shawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02633935985970527303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-92123020577663792482013-08-27T20:00:30.866-04:002013-08-27T20:00:30.866-04:00"The academic job market is by no means tight..."The academic job market is by no means tight."<br /><br />I'm looking forward to reading that blog, cause that's the funniest thing I've read all day.New & Improved STEM™noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-12450488434989563782013-08-27T18:27:23.477-04:002013-08-27T18:27:23.477-04:00Anon6:12:
I'm not sure who you might think is...Anon6:12:<br /><br />I'm not sure who you might think is referring to a tight academic job market (or lack thereof). I suspect that Prof. Burdette was referring to the overall Ph.D. chemist job market (both academic and industrial) that postdocs would be entering. <br /><br />Regarding a quantitative understanding, yes, I have projects in the works, but they're, um, in the works. <br /><br />Anon, what would you like to see? <br /><br />P.S. Do you really think the Chembark list is a sign of the health of the academic chemistry job market? <br />Chemjobberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15932113680515602275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-79317681554350668382013-08-27T18:12:51.781-04:002013-08-27T18:12:51.781-04:00The academic job market is by no means tight. Look...The academic job market is by no means tight. Look at Chembark's list of recent hires and moves. Just about every major chemistry department has or is hiring and that is not slowing. This site is supposed to be moving towards a "quantitative understanding" of the market. Any data? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-82481390071320702842013-08-27T13:14:42.218-04:002013-08-27T13:14:42.218-04:00When are we going to stop blaming unemployed peopl...When are we going to stop blaming unemployed people for their own dilemma? It feels like once someone is unemployed (through bad luck, bad choices or whatever) they become persona non grata. It's disturbing.Unstable Isotopenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-1669505323248818062013-08-27T13:14:38.558-04:002013-08-27T13:14:38.558-04:00The 'visiting' part should be the giveaway...The 'visiting' part should be the giveaway, no? You're only visiting, you don't live here!The Aqueous Layernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964719845369935777.post-4168962539168778422013-08-27T13:12:52.305-04:002013-08-27T13:12:52.305-04:00Isn't this just adjunct professor positions un...Isn't this just adjunct professor positions under another name?Unstable Isotopenoreply@blogger.com