Wednesday, August 29, 2018

Did you witness the Mirkin/Levy contretemps?

Did you witness the Mirkin/Levy contretemps at ACS Boston? (Here's Dr. Levy's account.) Want to talk to a science journalist (who is not me) about it? E-mail me at chemjobber@gmail.com before noon Thursday ET.

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  1. Not sure if you saw this thread on Reddit. No eyewitness accounts, but a couple of people who seem personally familiar with the Mirkin/Levy controversy chime in, including Levy himself. There's more to their relationship than just what happened at this talk.

    https://old.reddit.com/r/chemistry/comments/98wt71/raphael_levy_and_chad_mirkin_at_acs_boston/

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  2. I think it's interesting that Levy removed most of the one comment on his blog in response to that post.

    It also seems like he's doing a lot to put his actions into the best possible context, including only showing supporting replies.

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  3. If that reddit post is accurate, it sounds like Levy has been harassing Mirkin a bit and Mirkin has likely snapped... Kind of similar to that one conspiracy theorist that was following Buzz Aldrin around with a camera and kept telling him to admit the moon landing was faked and one day, Aldrin punched the guy out in the street.

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    1. The difference between Mirkin/Levy and conspiracy theory/moon is that.....

      i) several *independent*, well qualified nanoparticle/cell bio labs have independently try to replicate the work of Mirkin. They failed, and they have gone on the record as failing.
      ii) A supplier has stopped selling the particles because they DON'T Work.
      iii) there is no plausible physical explanation for chad's nanoflares mechanism of action.

      Chad Mirkin has done a lot of good science. It's clear he overreached here, and oversold work which doesn't work, and now his fanbase is trying to defend him.

      Science is meant to be self-correcting, and the corrections should be done by peers. Levy is a peer. When bad science is done - even by rich and powerful people with impressive track records, IT NEEDS TO BE CALLED OUT so other scientists and society. don't waste their time and money.

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    2. Look at how investors end up seeing Mirkin's stuff. That tells you all you need to know.

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    3. Fast forward to now: investors in Chad Mirkin's technologies have lost their shirts because of course it doesn't work. Overall, Mirkin's history of producing commercially viable technologies is abysmal. Levy was completely right.

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